it seemed like even if they had fit the upper would have ...,
They were too small and I returned them. Also, it seemed like even if they had fit the upper would have rubbed against the protrusion of my ankle bone.
Nice little shoes. I'm a petite woman only 5ft, and these fit perfectly. They need a little time to gte use to them (sort of break them in); I'd say about an hour of walking just because the sole is a little weird at first. They fit very well, very cute and stylish. Great for a dressy job as they are comfortable but nicer than flats.